| Confirmed
Minutes of the 55th Meeting of the Environmental Impact Assessment
Subcommittee of the Advisory Council on the Environment held on
27 June 2000 at 3:00pm, 6 July 2000 at 3:00pm, and 11 July 2000
at 2:00pm
Present:
Professor LAM Kin-che (Chairman)
Mr. Barrie COOK (on 27 June)
Dr. Ho Kin-chung (on 6 July & 11 July)
Mr. LIN Chaan-ming
Dr. NG Cho-nam
Mr. Otto POON
Miss Alex YAU
Miss Petula POON(Secretary)
Absent
with Apologies:
Professor Peter HILLS
Mr. Plato YIP
In Attendance:
| Mr. Joseph
LAU |
ACE Member
(on 27 June & 6 July only) |
| Mr. Elvis
AU |
Assistant
Director (Environmental Assessment & Noise), Environmental
Protection Department (EPD) (AD(EA)/EPD) |
| Mr. S P
LAU |
Assistant
Director (Conservation), Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation
Department (AFCD) (AD(Conservation)/AFCD) |
| Miss Cora
SO |
Executive
Officer (B), Environment and Food Bureau |
In Attendance for Agenda
Item 3(on 26 June)
| Mr. Benny
Wong |
Assistant
Director (Waste & Water), EPD (AD(WW)/EPD) |
| Dr. Malcolm
Broom |
Principal
Environmental Protection Officer (Water Policy & Planning),
EPD (PEPO(WP)/EPD) |
| Mr. Alan
Kwok |
Project
Co-manager of SSDS EIA Study, Montgomery Watson HK Ltd (PM/MW) |
| Mr Liao
Xian Gui |
Project
Co-director of the SSDS EIA Study, Binhai Wastewater Treatment
& Disposal (Hong Kong) Consultants Ltd (PD/Binhai) |
| Mr. Ian
Sehested Hansen |
Chief Engineer,
Danish Hydraulic Institute |
In Attendance for Agenda Item 4 :
| Mr. James
Blake |
Senior
Director, Capital Projects, KCRC (SD(CP)/KCRC) |
| Mr. Lee
Kang-kuen |
Director,
East Rails Extensions, KCRC (on 27 June) (D(ER)/KCRC) |
| Mr. Hugh
Wu |
Manager,
Capital Project, KCRC (on 6 & 11 July) |
| Mr. Vic
McNally |
Environmental
Manager, KCRC (EM/KCRC) (on 6 & 11 July) |
| Ms. Lisa
Poon |
Senior
Environmental Specialist, KCRC |
| Mr. Roy
Fan |
Environmental
Specialist, KCRC |
| Mr. Raymond
Wong |
Corporate
Affairs Manager, KCRC |
| Mr. Selwyn
Lai |
Operations
Planning Manager, KCRC (OPM/KCRC) |
| Mr. Richard
Deacon |
Binnie
Black & Veatch HK Limited (on 27 June) (TD/BBV) |
| Dr. Lynn
Smith |
Binnie
Black & Veatch HK Limited (Con1/BBV) |
| Mr. Michael
Leven |
Binnie
Black & Veatch HK Limited (Con2/BBV) |
| Mr. Paul
Leader |
Binnie
Black & Veatch HK Limited (on 27 June & 6 July) (Con3/BBV) |
| Mr. Christopher
Foot |
Binnie
Black & Veatch HK Limited |
| Mr. William
Shiu |
Principal
Assistant Secretary, Transport Bureau (TB) (PAS(9)/TB) |
| Mr. Wan
Man-lung |
Principal
Assistant Secretary, TB (PAS(7)/TB) |
| Mr. L T
Ma |
Acting
Government Engineer/Railway Development, Highways Department
(Hy D) (on 27 June)(Ag. GE(RD)/HyD) |
| Mr. P K
Chan |
Chief Engineer/Railway,
Hy D (CE(Railway)/HyD) |
| Mr. Joseph
Lau |
Senior
Engineer/Railway Planning, Hy D (on 27 June) |
| Mr. H M
Wong |
Principal
Environmental Protection Officer (Territory Assessment), EPD
(PEPO(TA)/EPD) |
| Mr. David
Cox |
Senior
Environmental Protection Officer (NWNT), EPD (on 27 June & 6
July) (SEPO(NWNT)/EPD)/td> |
| Mr. Tom
Tam |
Acting
Senior Environmental Protection Officer (NWNT), EPD (on 11 July) |
| Mr. Dennis
Mok |
Acting
Senior Nature Conservation Officer, AFCD (on 6 and 11 July)
(Ag. SNCO/AFCD) |
*************************
| The
Chairman welcomed Miss Petula Poon, the new Subcommittee
Secretary, to the meeting.
2. The Chairman suggested and Members
agreed going through the housekeeping items before the discussions
of the two EIA reports.
Agenda Item 1 : Confirmation of
Minutes of the 53rd and the 54th Meetings held on 8 May and
12 June 2000 respectively
3. As no comments were received on the two
draft minutes of meetings, the minutes were confirmed.
Agenda Item 2 : Matters Arising
Para. 22 : A sustainable overall solution
to the long-term transport demand in the territory
4.
Members noted that their concern was conveyed to the Council
at its meeting on 26 July 2000.
|
Action |
| Para.
25 : A quorum for ACE EIA Subcommittee Meeting
5. The Chairman informed Members that
the issue was raised at the Council meeting held on 26 July
2000 and it was considered more desirable for this Subcommittee
to have a dedicated discussion on the issue first, and suggest
possible options for the Council's further consideration at
its meeting in September.
Agenda Item 5 : Monthly Update
of Applications under the EIA Ordinance
6. Members noted the monthly update
of applications under the EIAO, the tentative schedule for
submission to ACE EIA Subcommittee, and the lists for designated/non-designated
projects not selected for submission (as at 25 June 2000).
Agenda Item 6 : Any Other Business
7. In view of the anticipated long discussion
on the EIA report of the KCRC Sheung Shui to Lok Ma Chau Spur
Line, Members agreed to reserve 6 July 2000 at 3:00pm
for further discussion if necessary.
Agenda Item 3 : Strategic Sewage
Disposal Scheme
(SSDS)(ACE EIA Paper 10/2000)
8. The Chairman welcomed the presentation
team to the meeting. PM/MW then briefed Members on the paper.
9. The Chairman reminded Members that
since the SSDS was under review by the SSDS International
Review Panel (IRP), this EIA report was not submitted formally
under the EIAO for endorsement but for early comments to be
conveyed to the IRP.
10. Noting that the outfall in Lema Channel
was not a preferred option according to the report, the
Chairman asked whether further studies were conducted
to eliminate the option. PEPO(WP)/EPD said that the
option was not preferred because it took much longer time
to complete and would encounter a higher degree of uncertainty
of geological conditions. Also, the Mainland felt uncomfortable
with the idea of treated effluent being discharged in their
waters. He said that though fieldwork had not been carried
out, further information on the geological structure of the
seabed was being collected.
11. The Chairman asked whether any
measures would be taken to bring the mercury concentration
down to meet the water quality objective (WQO). PM/MW
said that the WQO adopted in this study was based on the Mainland's
standard which was already lower than the ambient concentration.
In response to a Member, PEPO(WP)/EPD said that Hong
Kong had no specific WQO for mercury concentration but instead
a general requirement for toxic substances not to be discharged
at levels which would result in accumulation in biota and
a consequent potential threat. This study had assessed the
toxic substances concentration in effluent in terms of risk
to ecology, wildlife and human health. It was concluded that
the minimal increase in mercury resulting from the proposed
discharge would have no significant adverse impact on the
marine ecology.
12. A Member noted that the effluent
discharged after chemically enhanced primary treatment (CEPT)
would increase suspended solids (SS) concentrations by less
than 1 mg/L in the water column, compared to the current ambient
concentrations of 5 - 10 mg/L (approximately 10% - 20% increase).
He said that some countries' standards only allowed a less
than 10% increase in SS concentrations by discharged effluent.
In this regard, that Member asked whether there was
a more exact figure of the estimated increase. In reply, PEPO(WP)/EPD
said that the WQO accepted a less than 30% increase at the
edge of dilution zone which would prevent adverse marine ecological
impact. That Member considered that the standard might
be too lenient and suggested that the marine ecological impact
of the discharge should be studied.
13. In response to a Member's enquiry on sludge
quantity and sludge disposal, AD(WW)/EPD said that
SSDS would ultimately produce about 1,600 tones per day of
dewatered sludge. The strategy to deal with sludge was examined
under the Sludge Treatment & Disposal Strategy Study.
The Study had recommended that the sludge be incinerated before
disposal at landfill. In reply to a Member, AD(WW)/EPD
confirmed that since sludge was a by-product of sewage treatment,
the IRP would take it into account in the context of cost
and environment acceptability of various options. PM/MW
supplemented that Members of ACE had been consulted on the
findings of the Sludge Treatment & Disposal Strategy Study
earlier this year.
14. A Member noted that the schematic
design for mitigating odour problem generated under normal
operating conditions and during emergency overflow was to
build a deodorisation unit with 99% or better deodorizing
efficiency. He urged the Administration to identify technology
to achieve such efficiency.
15. A Member queried why the disinfection
method was still subject to review while UV had been used
in the schematic design. She also asked whether chlorination
would be replaced when better disinfection technology was
available. In reply to the first question, PM/MW said
that since the next stage of SSDS would not commence at least
eight years later, they needed to leave room for considering
new disinfection technology developed during the period. As
regards the second question, PM/MW said that chlorination
had not been ruled out but it was subject to further studies
due to its uncertainties.
|
EIA
Subcommittee |
| 16.
Noting that the EIA study was conducted based on cost figures
in 1998, a Member asked whether the consultants could
update the estimates to reflect the current status of the options.
AD(WW)/EPD said that the cost figures given in the EIA
report served the purpose of options comparison. Updating the
cost figures would unlikely affect the selection of the preferred
option. However, he said that the cost estimates of the preferred
option would be updated in the Preliminary Project Feasibility
Study process.
Members' views and recommendations
17. The Chairman concluded that the
Subcommittee had no strong objection to a treatment level
with CEPT plus disinfection and an outfall in the Lema Channel
provided that there was flexibility for upgrading or downgrading
the treatment level in future when necessary. He also reiterated
that Members' other concerns included the ecological impact
from a not more than 30% increase in SS concentrations by
effluent at the edge of dilution zone in the affected water
bodies; identification of possible technology to achieve no
less than 99% odour removal efficiency; and sludge disposal
management. AD(WW)/EPD asked if Members felt there
were any significant deficiencies in the approach or scope
of the EIA. After seeking views from the Members, the Chairman
concluded that there did not appear to be any such deficiencies,
although a Member suggested that the IRP should consider specifically
the possible impact of the predicted rise in suspended solids
at the edge of the initial dilution zone. A
Agenda Item 4 : Kowloon-Canton
Railway Corporation (KCRC) Sheung Shui to Lok Ma Chau Spur
Line
(ACE EIA Paper 9/2000)
18. The Chairman appealed to Members
not to be prejudiced against the project by recent news reporting
and that they should raise questions which were pertinent
to the recommendation to be put forward to the Council.
19. The Chairman welcomed the presentation
team to the meeting and invited Members to raise questions.
20. With reference to a recent newspaper reporting,
a Member sought clarification from KCRC on whether
the Ma On Shan and Tsim Sha Tsui East Rail Extensions would
be aborted should this Subcommittee not recommend endorsement
of the EIA report of the Spur Line project. In reply, SD(CP)/KCRC
assured Members that the Spur Line was a stand-alone project
in itself and it would not affect the status of the other
two East Rail (ER) extensions.
Need for Strategic Environmental Assessment
(SEA)
21. Given that a number of planned or committed
projects would be carried out in the vicinity of the Spur
Line, the Chairman asked whether an SEA had been conducted
to assess the overall cumulative impacts. In reply, PEPO(TA)/EPD
said that an environmental assessment (EA) was carried out
under the Planning and Development Study of North East New
Territories (NENT Study) which had covered the area in question
including the Kwu Tung Strategic Growth Area (SGA). In reply
to a Member's follow up enquiry, PEPO(TA)/EPD
confirmed that the Fanling Bypass was included in the NENT
Study.
22. Upon enquiry from a Member, Con1/BBV
said that the Planning and Development Study of North West
New Territories (NWNT Study) identified a SGA at Hung Shui
Kiu on which further EA was conducted.
23. A Member said that for the benefit
of assessing the cumulative impacts arisen from the Spur Line
project and other planned or committed projects in the region,
it would be useful if an SEA were conducted. In response,
PEPO(TA)/EPD said that the EA of the NENT Study had
already taken into account future railway developments and
other planned or committed projects in that area. AD(EA)/EPD
supplemented that the Council was consulted on the EAs of
the NENT and NWNT Studies a few months ago.
|
EPD |
| 24. The
Chairman requested the Secretariat to check whether the
EAs of the two Studies were submitted for advice or for information
and what views had the Council offered.
[Post-meeting note : The EA reports of the
NWNT and NENT Studies were respectively considered at the
EIA Subcommittee meeting held on 13 December 1999 and at the
ACE meeting held on 20 December 1999. The records of discussion
were circulated to Members on 28 June 2000.]
Ecological Value of Long Valley
25. A Member said that the ecological
importance of Long Valley was not only recognized in the EIA
of the Spur Line project (as stated in para. 2.2.6 of the
EIA Report), but also in the SEA of the Second Railway Development
Study (RDS-2). The latter report even concluded that "the
Recommended Outline Development Plan is currently being revised
to rezone the area to a classification of 'Other Specified
uses (Nature Park)'. Following the completion of the re-zoning,
the site will have statutory protection and will therefore,
for the purposes of this strategic study, need to be considered
as an absolute constraint" (quoted from para. 7.4.25-26
of the Final SEA Report of RDS-2). PAS(9)/TB said that
the RDS-2 and its SEA were formulated, inter alia, on the
basis that a total of six new railway projects, including
the Sheung Shui to Lok Ma Chau Spur Line, would be implemented
as scheduled. The Railway Development Strategy 2000 had mapped
out the preferred railway network expansion plan for the HKSAR
to further expand the rail network up to the year 2016 and
the earliest implementation of the new schemes would be around
2008.
26. In response to the Chairman, AD(EA)/EPD
said that Long Valley was currently neither designated as
a site of conservation importance under the Outline Zoning
Plan, nor did it fall into the categories of "no go areas"
stipulated in the Technical Memorandum of EIAO. At this juncture,
a Member informed Members that the World Wide Fund
For Nature Hong Kong and the Hong Kong Bird Watching Society
had submitted a request to the Town Planning Board to rezone
Long Valley as a conservation area. Also, under the Scheme
of Bird Life International, Long Valley would be recognized
as an internationally important birds habitat.
27. On the same subject, a Member said
that in the Sha Lo Tung case, the Council had advised to restrict
residential developments in Sha Lo Tung when the area was
not yet designated as "no go area". She felt that
the same could apply to Long Valley. In reply, AD(EA)/EPD
said that in considering the Spur Line project, the principle
of "avoiding the sensitive area where practicable"
had been applied. The Chairman agreed with AD(EA)/EPD
and said that before Long Valley was legally designated as
"no go area", Members should perhaps focus on whether
the proponent had exhausted all possible alternative alignments
to avoid Long Valley.
28. A Member pointed out that the Spur
Line project would encroach on the Wetland Conservation Area
(WCA) and he was concerned about the compensation for the
impact on the WCA. SEPO(NWNT)/EPD said that there was
a precedent case in the Eastern Main Drainage Channel project
in which the project was located within the WCA. The proposed
compensation for that project was considered adequate by this
Subcommittee. AD(EA)/EPD added that an important consideration
for all mitigation measures was that there should be "no
net loss" of the ecological and environmental conditions
of the project location.
Alignment Options
29. A Member asked why the Spur Line
must be extended from ER instead of West Rail (WR), and why
it must branch off from Sheung Shui. In response, SD(CP)/KCRC
said that the Spur Line was originally part of the WR Phase
II project. However, whilst WR Phase II was deferred for further
planning study, cross-border travel had increased at a rate
that exceeded the capacity of the Lo Wu Station. It was therefore
concluded that the Spur Line project be advanced by using
ER train services.
30. In response to a Member's second question,
D(ER)/KCRC said that branching off at south of Fanling
was also impracticable because for the same engineering problems,
Fanling Station must be demolished, and passengers from Sheung
Shui and Fanling must travel southwards to Tai Wo Station
before heading northwards to Lok Ma Chau, which was considered
too inconvenient to passengers.
31. A Member queried why the passengers
from Sheung Shui and Fanling could not cross the border at
Lo Wu Station whereas passengers from elsewhere would use
the Lok Ma Chau Station. In response, SD(CP)/KCRC said
that the railway strategy was drawn up taking into account
passengers' preference.
32. A Member asked if it was possible
to shift the Southern Route 2 further suoth to avoid villages
in Tsung Pak Long. In reply, D(ER)/KCRC said that that
would also require demolition of the Sheung Shui Station and
the drawbacks were just explained. Another Member asked
why the proponent had assumed that passengers traveling to
Lok Ma Chau Station would mainly come from Sheung Shui. SD(CP)/KCRC
said that apart from people living in Sheung Shui and Fanling,
passengers from NWNT would also start off at Sheung Shui Station
to cross the border.
33. A Member asked if the Southern
Route 2 could shift southwards and ran on Fanling Highway
to minimize the affected area. He said that there were successful
examples of highway running on top of railway in Bangkok and
Kuala Lumpur. In reply, SD(CP)/KCRC said that the Fanling
Highway was not designed as a double deck road to accommodate
a railway. He further explained that in the Bangkok case,
there were more space available and less utility ducts alongside
the highway. The situation in Hong Kong was quite different.
Finally, SD(CP)/KCRC said that in terms of engineering,
no alignment was impossible but the impacts would be insurmountable.
34. Noting that WR was planned to connect
to Lok Ma Chau and a link would be built joining WR and ER
at north of Sheung Shui, a Member asked if passengers
could travel to Lok Ma Chau Station by changing platforms
at Lo Wu Station instead of through the Spur Line. D(ER)/KCRC
responded that there was no room to build another platform
at Lo Wu Station and even if there were, it would require
a longer traveling time and would defeat the purpose of relieving
congestion at Lo Wu Station.
35. The Chairman said that to enable
Members to recommend an alignment option which had the minimum
environmental impacts, it would be useful if the proponent
could explain why the Central Alignment was preferred. In
response, SD(CP)/KCRC briefed Members on the engineering
difficulties and other impacts of the other four alignments.
The Northern Route was considered undesirable because should
the route be built on a safe curve angle, the track would
encroach into a substantial part of the Shek Wu Hui sewage
treatment works and the Sheung Shui slaughterhouse. As regards
the River Beas Route, inadequate space was available between
the railway and the sewage treatment works to construct the
viaduct support column foundations on which the Spur Line
would be built. For Southern Route 1, Po Shek Wu road bridge,
which formed a critical part of the road network connecting
to the Man Kam To boundary crossing, had to be demolished
and rebuilt. This was considered unacceptable in terms of
its degree of hindrance on the heavy traffic in the area.
Southern Route 2 brought adverse impacts on Tsung Pak Long
and Yin Kong villages, and potential damage to sustainable
environmental planning of Kwu Tung SGA.
36. Noting the close proximity of the branch
off points of the Central Alignment and River Beas Route,
a Member said that the two alignments should have the
same engineering problem and wondered why the former could
overcome the problem whilst the latter could not. Con1/BBV
and Con2/BBV referred respectively to para. 2.9.5.1.1
and Fig. 2.2 (10 of 11) of the EIA report, and explained that
Central Alignment branched off from a straight section of
ER and thus could avoid the constraints arising from Shek
Wu Hui Sewage Treatment Works and the Sheung Shui Slaughter
House.
|
Secretariat |
| 37. A
Member was not convinced why WR or an alignment branching
off at south of Sheung Shui could not relieve the congestion
at Lo Wu Station. The Chairman echoed that Member's remark
and asked the proponent to provide supporting evidence at the
next meeting. In response to another Member's request, the
Chairman agreed to further pursue the alignment options
at the next meeting.
38. Noting that Members' major concern was
the impacts on Long Valley, a Member suggested the
proponent to explain how the affected ecology of Long Valley
could be compensated. The Chairman agreed that the
Proponent should explain at the present meeting to be followed
by a detailed discussion at the next meeting. Con2/BBV
said that the ecological impacts of the Central Alignment
and the River Beas Route were almost the same. However, the
former was preferred because it would provide better opportunity
for off-site mitigation. Con3/BBV supplemented that
the number of Greater Painted-snipes had been decreasing in
recent years due to land-use changes. On the other hand, recent
monitoring results in the construction works in WR showed
that the construction works there did not affect the species.
|
KCRC |
39. A
Member pointed out that the project proponent had double
counted the proposed mitigation measures in meanders No. 1 and
2A because the two meanders were supposed to be mitigation measures
for the Main Drainage Channels for Fanling, Sheung Shui and
Hinterland project. In response, TD/BBV undertook to
seek clarification with the New Territories Development Department
and to provide a written answer before the next meeting.
|
KCRC |
40. Since
the meeting could not cover all the issues and there was insufficient
information for Members to make a recommendation, the Chairman
concluded that discussion would continue at another meeting
scheduled for 6 July at 3:00pm. At the request of a Member,
SD(CP)/KCRC agreed that site visits would be arranged
in the morning of 6 July and 8 July 2000 respectively to facilitate
Members to have a better understanding of the subject. 41. To
facilitate discussion at the next meeting and to enable the
project proponent to prepare in advance, the Chairman invited
Members to raise questions and to list out information required
by them.
|
KCRC |
42.
A Member requested the following :
- The
impacts of the access roads to various stations, in particular,
the access road from Lok Ma Chau Road to Lok Ma Chau Station;
- A
list of emergency vehicular access roads and the impacts
arising from them;
- A
map showing the locations of the proposed noise barriers,
especially the 2m-high barriers located north of Tsung Pak
Long;
- the
impacts along the alignments, other than the areas in Lok
Ma Chau and Long Valley which were the major focus of the
EIA report, in particular, the area near Chau Tau where
the Savannah Night Jar and Eagle Owl were inhabited;
- the
planned extension(s) of the two tracks coming out from Lok
Ma Chau Station.
|
KCRC |
43.
Another Member requested the following :
- A copy
of the ERM 1999 Ecological Study Report;
- the
impact of the footprint of works area during construction
phase;
- further
to (4) of the first Member's request, the mitigation measures
of those impacts; and
- schedules
of construction works and implementation of mitigation measures
of the Spur Line.
|
KCRC |
44.
A third Member requested the following :
- (1) Comparison
between the environmental impacts brought by an open viaduct
and a closed viaduct.
|
KCRC |
| 45. The
Chairman asked and SD(CP)/KCRC agreed to provide
answers to the above requests by the morning of 5 July 2000.
SD(CP)/KCRC also undertook to collate replies to the
queries raised in the letters from various interest groups,
for example the Hong Kong Bird Watching Society and circulated
them to Members before the next meeting.
46. The meeting was adjourned at 8:00pm and
resumed discussion at 3:00pm on 6 July 2000.
47. The
Chairman felt that the discussion might not reach a consensus,
so the aim should be to go through every issue of concern
and to bring the key controversies to the attention of the
main Council.
|
KCRC |
| 48. In
response to a Member, the Chairman said that a number
of outside organizations had submitted to the Council comments
and questions on the Spur Line project. He asked the proponent
to provide to the Council written answers to questions raised
by those organizations.
49. AD(EA)/EPD informed Members that
so far EPD had received 24 sets of public comments submitted
under EIAO.
|
KCRC |
| Alignment
Options (Con't)
50. In reply to a Member's query, SD(CP)/KCRC
explained that the ER minimum service level required 20 trains
per hour per direction (tphpd), which would ensure passengers
to wait not more than 3 minutes to board a train. The maximum
service level was currently 24 tphpd. Since the peak hour
passenger travel demand for Lok Ma Chau Station would require
a service level of 12 tphpd, if the Spur Line branched off
south of Fanling, the service level from Tai Po Market to
Fanling, Sheung Shui and Lo Wu could only be 12 tphpd. This
was considered unacceptable in terms of service level because
passengers would need to wait for 5 minutes to board a train.
That would induce severe competition between train and other
transport services. That Member felt that the patronage
demand could be met if given appropriate operation management
arrangements. She requested the proponent to provide information
of the current ER train service level, both in terms of tphpd
and number of boarding, on a weekday and a weekend.
51. Upon enquiry from the Chairman, SD(CP)/KCRC
said that the Southern Route 2 was infeasible due to engineering
constraints. SD(CP)/KCRC explained that the route conflicted
with the existing Sheung Shui Station which must be demolished
to give way to the railway. To maintain undisrupted operation
of the ER, a new station would need to be built before demolishing
the existing one but there was no suitable location for building
a new station.
52. A Member asked whether the constraints
of River Beas Route could be overcome. SD(CP)/KCRC
said that since the route would cross four tracks of the ER
and the slaughterhouse delivery sidings at an obtuse angle,
a bridge with a span of approximately 250 metres must be built.
However, there was no room between the tracks, the trunk sewer
inlet pipes and the five Dongjiang Watermains to locate the
foundations for the viaduct. Thus, this option was practically
impossible.
|
KCRC |
| 53. In
response to a Member's same query regarding the Northern Route,
SD(CP)/KCRC said that to enable a safe turn of the Spur
Line, a curved section of the ER must be straightened and this
would encroach into a substantial part of the Shek Wu Hui STW
and the Sheung Shui Slaughterhouse. Discussions with the relevant
parties, including Drainage Services Department, Architectural
Services Department, Water Services Department and the Food
and Environmental Hygiene Department concluded that the impacts
would seriously compromise the operations of the facilities
and were thus unacceptable. CE(Railway)/HyD confirmed
SD(CP)/KCRC's statement and undertook to provide the relevant
minutes of meeting to Members for reference. That Member
felt that these constraints could be overcome provided that
there were sufficient time and financial resources. To ascertain
from the relevant parties that the impacts arising from this
route were insurmountable, the Chairman asked the Secretariat
to invite responses from them.
54. A Member was not convinced why
an alignment extending from WR could not relieve congestion
at Lo Wu Station. Another Member echoed that Member's
comments and asked whether all the connections between ER
and WR were necessary to cater for passengers' demand in the
long run. PAS(7)/TB confirmed that the Spur Line was
necessary to divert cross-boundary traffic, and the Northern
Link was required to provide convenient transportation from
WR to the boundary crossings and to ER such as Tuen Mun to
Tai Po Market.
55. Considering that Members might not have
time to study the supplementary information provided by the
proponent which was only circulated the day before, a Member
suggested the proponent briefly highlighting the major points
of information. Apart from those explained in detail before,
SD(CP)/KCRC said that Southern Route 1 was infeasible
because the route clashed with Po Shek Wu Road bridge which
must be elevated to provide adequate headroom for the Spur
Line viaduct. This would however affect the busy traffic network
connecting to the Man Kam To boundary crossing. Also, resumption
of Jumbo Plaza would be required for the diversion of the
Dongjiang Watermains. Experience from WR had shown that resumption
of such premises was out of the question. As regards the alignment
running along Fanling Highway, SD(CP)/KCRC said that
the Highway would have to be widened by about two lanes, resulting
not only in impact on schools and other buildings, but also
in impact on villages in Tai Tau Ling and Tsung Pak Long.
|
Hy
D
Secretariat |
| 56. A
Member asked if it was possible to reduce the size of the
foundations for the viaduct of River Beas Route by making a
sharper turn on the down track to bring the two tracks closer
together. SD(CP)/KCRC said that a sharper turn would
exceed the railway safety limit and EM/KCRC supplemented
that even if the tracks could be brought closer together, the
size of the foundations could not be significantly reduced.
That Member felt that the Central Alignment should face
similar engineering constraints and requested the proponent
to provide a detailed color map showing how this option could
be practically feasible. To avoid confusion, the Chairman
asked that Member to draw on a map his proposed alignment so
that the proponent could explain the impossibility of such alignment
more specifically.[Post-meeting note : The Secretariat sent
a sketch of that Member's proposed alignment to KCRC on 10 July.]
57. A Member asked whether the two
tracks of the River Beas Route could be shifted southwards
to avoid the problems with the down track. In response, SD(CP)/KCRC
said that the down track would still need to cross ER and
the same problems would exist.
|
KCRC
That Member |
58. A
Member recalled having sight of a proposed route further
north of the Northern Route, and asked whether it had been taken
into consideration as a possible option for the Spur Line. In
reply, EM/KCRC said that that option was impossible because
the Lo Wu Goods Yard would be rendered unusable. That Member
requested for written information on the feasibility assessment
of this route.
|
KCRC |
| 59. To
facilitate discussion at the main Council, the Chairman
asked the proponent to list out the constraints and impacts
of all the alignments in a table form.
Adequacy of Ecological Assessment
60. A Member said that according to
para. 4.3.20 and 4.3.35 of the EIA report, there was a lack
of ecological information of amphibians, reptiles and mammals,
especially in Chau Tau and Lok Ma Chau. Furthermore, the report
was written only based on literature review of the ERM (1999b)
report and no field survey had been carried out to verify
or supplement the existing ecological data. As the EIA Study
Brief and TM required the proponent to conduct a 12-month
ecological survey of the study area, that Member opined
that the proponent had not met the requirements of the Study
Brief and TM.
61. PEPO(TA)/EPD said that according
to the EIA Study Brief, the proponent was firstly required
to review findings of relevant studies and collate all available
information regarding ecological characteristics of the study
area, then to evaluate the information collected and identify
any information gap, and thirdly to carry out necessary field
surveys which should at least be 6-month covering wet and
dry seasons. That Member was not satisfied with the
ecological assessment of the project because despite the EIA
report revealed that there was a lack of information, the
proponent had not carried out field surveys to fill in the
gap.
62. Con2/BBV said that they had targeted
the ecological assessment at major conservation issues like
birds. For other fauna, they had adopted the work done by
other experts and the baseline data was sufficient for designing
necessary mitigation measures. EM/KCRC believed that
the assessment was adequate for they had adopted a precautionary
approach and designed the mitigation measures based on a worst-case
scenario. Ag. SNCO/AFCD agreed that every ecological
assessment had its own focus. In this case, after incorporating
comments received during the exhibition of the project profile,
the main scope of the assessment on habitat and wildlife as
detailed in the Study Brief included fishponds, freshwater
marshes, agricultural land, shrub and woodland, and avifauna.
63. A Member drew Members' attention
to para. 4.2.8 of the EIA report. He said that if it were
agreed that butterflies and dragonfly larvae could be used
as indicators of habitat diversity and water quality, no further
field survey would be needed because the concerned baseline
data was available from the study conducted by ERM previously.
Another Member said that that Member's assumption was
true based on the logic of ecological food chain, but care
must be taken to ensure that the consultants had not over-interpreted
the second hand data.
|
KCRC |
64. The
Chairman said that this issue should be brought to the attention
of the main Council and asked that Member to make clear his
concern. That Member said that a four-season ecological
survey should be carried out in the vicinity of the project,
in particular Chau Tau and Lok Ma Chau, to fill in the information
gaps of the literature review with regard to amphibians, reptiles
and mammals. Otherwise, the requirements stipulated in the EIA
Study Brief would not be met and it was difficult to judge whether
the mitigation measures were adequate. Another Member
supplemented that there was also a question of whether ERM had
actually carried out a 6-month ecological survey.
|
ACE |
| 65. AD(EA)/EPD
said that AFCD had confirmed that the ecological assessment
of this project had been done in compliance with the scope set
out in the Study Brief. From this point of view, one could not
say the report had failed to meet the Study Brief requirements.
However, he encouraged Members to put up comments for DEP to
consider. He suggested the proponent to explain if the information
gaps would affect the EIA study findings and the proposed mitigation
measures and provide justifications. He also proposed and SD(CP)/KCRC
agreed that ERM should be involved in the response.
Cumulative
Ecological Impacts
66. Con2/BBV
briefed Members on the methodology for calculating cumulative
ecological impacts as well as the specific issues considered
during the assessment. PEPO(TA)/EPD supplemented that
the development of Kwu Tung SGA had also been taken into account.
|
KCRC |
| 67. A
Member was concerned over the conservation plan for Long
Valley because there was at present no protection against development
in that area despite its widely recognized conservation value.
For fear that Long valley was subject to habitat fragmentation
by various projects, that Member said that an SEA for that area
should be carried out and proper conservation measure be taken
before considering any individual project in that area. The
Chairman said that that Member's concern was well noted
and suggested bringing it to the attention of the main Council.
PEPO(TA)/EPD supplemented that a Schedule 3 EIA study
for that area was being undertaken by TDD and was anticipated
for completion in six-months' time.
Residual Impacts
68. Noting that 9.5 ha. of wetland would be
lost after compensation, a Member was not satisfied
that the principle of "no net loss" had not been
adhered to. In response, EM/KCRC said that under the
Railway Ordinance, KCRC could not resume land to provide compensation
for adverse environmental impacts. He then added that 28.5
ha of existing fishponds in Lok Ma Chau would be enhanced
in functions to compensate for the habitat loss.
|
ACE |
| 69. A
Member said that the proposed mitigation was unacceptable
and argued that the principle for compensation should be both
by function AND by area. At this juncture, AD(EA)/EPD
clarified that according to the TM of EIAO, it should be by
function OR by area. Con2/BBV then added that the interpretation
of the principle by the Government and by ACE had been by function
OR by area and cited Shenzhen River widening project as an example.
That Member said that the Town Planning Board (TPB)'s
criteria for evaluating the adequacy of compensation in a WCA
under a private development proposal was by function AND by
area. She said that if there were discrepancy between the requirements
under EIAO and TPB, the Administration must clarify why this
is so. She also disagreed with the citing of Shenzhen River
project as an example because the EIAO had not been implemented
when the project was approved. She said that from past experience,
it was possible to observe "no net loss" principle
without taking off-site land. AD(Conservation)/AFCD explained
that there was no "one-to-one" ratio of compensation
policy. He also undertook to check TPB's Guidelines for Application
for Developments within Deep Bay Area in relation to WCA. The
Chairman said that the conflict in interpretation of compensation
would be brought up in the main Council.
(Post-meeting notes : TPB's guidelines in
relation to WCA stated that for essential infrastructural
project with overriding public interest, it should not result
in net loss in wetland function and negative disturbance impact.
A practical wetland compensation scheme would be required.
A copy of the Guidelines was distributed to Members of the
EIA Subcommittee on 10 July.)
70. The Chairman proposed to continue
the discussion at 2:00pm on 11 July 2000.
Any Other Business
Lamma Power Station - Conversion of two
existing gas turbines into a combined cycle unit (The Hong
Kong Electric Co. Ltd.)
71. AD(EA)/EPD informed Members that
the HKEC had applied for permission to apply directly for
environmental permit to carry out the captioned conversion
in the existing power station to increase the power generating
capacity. He said that the project profile was currently exhibited
for public inspection and he would like to seek Members' comments
on the application. A copy of application and project profile
was tabled for Members' reference.
|
ACE |
| 72. The
Chairman asked Members to consider the application and indicate
their support or objection at the next meeting.
73. The meeting was adjourned at 7:45pm and
resumed discussion at 2:00pm on 11 July 2000.
Alignment Options (Con't) - Underground
option
74. In response to the Chairman, SD(CP)/KCRC
said that the underground option had been examined but was
concluded impossible because given gradient consideration,
the Spur Line would be well into Long Valley before it could
go underground. EM/KCRC supplemented that this option
would also bring about serious construction impacts and operational
problems given the fact that the area was a flood plain.
75. In reply to a Member's suggestion that
the Spur Line start heading underground after the Fanling
Station, SD(CP)/KCRC said that it was also impossible
because of insufficient space along side the existing railway
to accommodate the Spur Line. Furthermore, it would also affect
the operation of East Rail during the construction period.
A Member's proposed alignment (Para. 56)
76. A Member briefed Members that his
proposed alignment would branch off at the same point of the
Central Alignment and run north as near as possible to River
Beas, heading south later to join the western part of the
Spur Line. He said that if this route was feasible, the fragmentation
of Long Valley and the related landscape impact could be reduced.
77. SD(CP)/KCRC displayed a map showing
the proposed alignment after taking into account safe railway
tangent and curvature. He said that the proposed alignment
would end up between the Central Alignment and the Beas River
Route. Con2/BBV said that the ecological impacts of
the proposed alignment would be much greater than the Central
Alignment.
|
Members |
| 78. That
Member pointed out that the railway curvature could be compromised
by adjusting the train speed. The Chairman suggested
that the alignment could be more flexible if the Kwu Tung Station
could be re-located. PAS(9)/TB thanked Members for the
suggestions and undertook to take a further look into the proposed
alignment with the Project proponent. SD(CP)/KCRC agreed
to work on the alignment and brief Members on the results at
the main Council meeting. In response to AD(EA)/EPD's query,
the Chairman said that it was the sentiment of the Subcommittee
Members to accept that Member's proposed alignment if it imposed
less ecological impacts to the Long Valley.
Adequacy, effectiveness and funding and
management plan of mitigation measuresLong Valley - adequacy
79. Con2/BBV said that in working out
the compensation, actual land loss and disturbance to fauna
along side the viaduct had been taken into account so that
1.7 ha of undisturbed habitat should be provided. In the EIA
report, they proposed 2.4 ha of re-created wetland underneath
and parallel to the viaduct and 1.4 ha of enhanced meanders
along River Beas as compensation.
80. A Member re-iterated that the meanders
concerned were already a committed mitigation site of the
Main Drainage Channel project undertaken by TDD which had
also undertaken to provide long-term management of the meanders.
SD(CP)/KCRC said that KCRC's proposed enhancement to
the meanders would add value to the seasonally wet habitats
created by TDD, through the provision of a diversity of habitats,
permanent and controlled water levels and a management programme
that would enable long-term sustainability of the wetland
habitat for the target species of concern. Con2/BBV supplemented
that they had designed the mitigation measures on the basis
of the relevant information provided by TDD.
|
KCRC |
| 81. A
Member said that the proposal was unacceptable because if
the meanders failed to achieve their proposed function, it would
be difficult to attribute the responsibility to TDD or KCRC.
Another Member cautioned that it was also difficult to
ascertain whether the meanders would achieve functions doubled
of that proposed by TDD whilst TDD had not yet completed the
mitigation works. The Chairman concluded that while the
constraint of land resumption for ecological compensation was
well taken, it only reflected the lack of coordination between
government departments and bureaux and should not be accepted
as an excuse for not acquiring sufficient land for compensatory
purpose. Having regard to Members' concern that adequate compensation
was not put in place, the Chairman suggested bringing
this matter as well as the issue of land resumption for further
consideration at the Council meeting.
Long Valley - effectiveness
82. The Chairman asked if there were
experience elsewhere with regard to the effectiveness of re-created
wetland. A Member said that according to the ecological
monitoring results of Route 3, there was reduced bird use
of about 63% in the re-created wetland underneath the viaduct
and high level of zinc and lead in the sediments in the area.
The spotted species were common species in Hong Kong. SD(CP)/KCRC
however pointed out that this experience was not entirely
comparable to their proposed wetland because Route 3 was a
road, not a railway. Con2/BBV said that Hong Kong was
a unique city of high population density and there would be
no need for other countries to carry out mitigation underneath
a viaduct. He was of the opinion that wetland was not difficult
to create provided that there was good design and proper long-term
management for the habitat. Indeed, Mai Po was a successful
example. That Member disagreed with Con2/BBV's second
point because no viaduct was built over Mai Po.
83. A Member cited figures from a study
conducted in the United States that 50% to 73% of re-created
wetland failed to function as anticipated. The Chairman
also noted that Prof. David Dudgeon of the University of Hong
Kong had expressed a similar concern, in particular regarding
the effectiveness of the temporary mitigation measures.
84. Upon enquiry from a Member on the implementation
schedule of mitigation and construction works, Con1/BBV
said that piling, ground works, and planting for the temporary
mitigation area (TMA) would start around July 2001 and was
anticipated to take effect around March 2002. Construction
works in Long Valley would start in early 2002 in area away
from the TMA and would be completed by 2002. The TMA would
be restored to its original state at the end of the construction
works in Long Valley. She assured Members that there was ample
time for the TMA to take effect before construction works
started in Long Valley. That Member noted that the
birds would be impacted twice from moving to and fro between
Long Valley and TMA within a year or so. Con2/BBV said
that the Greater Painted-snipe, the major species of conservation
importance, was accustomed to moving from patches of areas
for feeding at night and the critical point was to provide
a day-time refuge site for their roosting.
85. A Member noted that the project
proponent had committed to ensure that works in Long Valley
marsh would not start before the TMA would function as a wetland
marsh. She asked how "function" was defined. Con2/BBV
explained that it was demonstrated by the usage of a representative
cross section of the targeted bird species of conservation
importance in Long Valley. In reply to another Member, Con2/BBV
said that breeding of the Greater Painted-snipe should not
be taken as a criterion to determine the functioning or otherwise
of the marsh because the number of that species was usually
low during dry winter weather.
86. Given that some Members were not satisfied
with the successful rate of re-created wetland, the Chairman
asked the proponent what fallback option had been proposed.
SD(CP)/KCRC said that as far as temporary mitigation
was concerned, they could approach the landowners for agreement
to use the land to carry out temporary enhancement measures.
Con2/BBV said that as regards permanent mitigation,
enhanced management of sub-regions of the re-created wetland
could be employed to compensate for the possible failure.
87. A Member asked why the ecological
impacts of the Beas River Route would be more serious than
that of the Central Alignment as he thought there was less
fragmentation in the former route. In response, Con2/BBV
explained that the ecological value along side the Beas River
had been higher than the central part of Long Valley in the
past. Although the value had depreciated due to the channelisation
activities, he believed it was only temporary. Therefore,
they could preserve the area better by pushing the alignment
southwards and leave as large a corridor as possible in the
northern part of Long Valley to provide ecological linkage
to the fauna there. Another Member disagreed and said
that the way to minimize the fragmentation of Long Valley
should be to keep the developments, namely the Spur Line,
the proposed Fanling Bypass, and the WR Phase II, as close
to each other as possible. Con2/BBV indicated that
the alignment of the proposed Fanling Bypass was still under
planning.
88. A Member referred to Fig. 4.12
of the EIA report and asked why the existing access road would
need to be widened to 6.7 meters whereas 3.5 meters was the
standard. In response, EM/KCRC said that the widening
was required by the Fire Services Department for the use of
fire engines in emergency situations.
Lok Ma Chau
89. The Chairman said that the controversy
over the adequacy of mitigation in this area stemmed from
the principle of wetland compensation in the context of by
area "and" or "or" by function. He noted
that the Subcommittee had been adopting the former because
it was more tangible. He said that if loss were to be compensated
by enhanced function, the proponent would need to demonstrate
how the mitigation would work. A Member cautioned that
it would make the assessment of future proposed mitigation
measures more difficult if enhanced function was accepted
in this case because no vetting criteria had yet been developed.
Another Member said that according to the results of
the Fish Pond Study, compensation by function was not recommended
because any reduction in area would reduce the ecological
function of that area.
90. EM/KCRC said that they had followed the
TM of EIAO to provide mitigation measures to the extent that
was practicable and this was the best they could propose.
AD(EA)/EPD said that given that resumption of land for compensation
was not possible, it would be useful if the proponent could
provide reasons to substantiate the adequacy and effectiveness
of their proposed mitigation measures.
|
KCRC |
| 91. A
Member said that the footings of Lok Ma Chau Station would
impinge on the mitigation site of the Shenzhen River Regulation
Stage II project in which fishponds would be enhanced. Con2/BBV
undertook to clarify the issue at the main Council meeting.
92. The Chairman asked whether there
were examples of enhanced fishponds in Hong Kong. In reply,
Con2/BBV said that Pond 20 in Mai Po was an example.
The species carrying capacity of the pond had been increased
by 20 times. Two Members said that the enhancement
was brought about by a change in habitat characteristic, and
the species attracted were not the target species. One
of the two Members said that this example was not comparable
to the proposed enhancement concerned.
93. A Member asked why the proposed
mitigation was considered appropriate while the EIA report
stated that there was insufficient information on amphibians,
reptiles and mammals in that area. Con2/BBV emphasised
that the target fauna was bird species of conservation importance
and they were confident that the fauna groups mentioned by
that Member would also accommodate into the enhanced habitat.
|
KCRC |
| 94. AD(EA)/EPD
said that to facilitate Members of the Council to consider the
adequacy of mitigation measures, it would be useful if that
Member could advise on what conditions the mitigation by function
would work. In response, that Member regretted that there
was limited experience in Hong Kong. The Chairman said
that it should be the proponent's responsibility to convince
the Council that the mitigation was adequate, and requested
the proponent to provide such evidence at the main Council meeting.
Funding and Management Plan of Mitigation
Measures
95. SD(CP)/KCRC said that a Trust arrangement
with interested green groups would be adopted for long-term
management and the funding would be by way of a lump sum to
meet the recurrent expenditure. Prior to that, KCRC would
be responsible for all the set-up cost for the mitigation
measures.
96. In response to a Member, AD(EA)/EPD
said that stringent requirements on long-term maintenance
and management of the mitigation measures would be stipulated
in the Environmental Permit, and the Permit holder would be
held responsible for failure to meet the requirements, even
after the Trust was established.
97. A Member noted that there was no
access road through the Long Valley and asked how the works
could be carried out in that area. EM/KCRC said that
no access road was built due to their intention to minimize
impacts. Farmers who were trusted to manage the area could
only use tools for normal agricultural activities. Con2/BBV
supplemented that the detailed design of the re-created wetland
was yet to be worked out but the spirit was to minimize the
scale of work so that management could be carried out by ordinary
farmers.
98. Noting that an independent water supply
would be put in place in Long Valley, a Member was
concerned whether that would affect the hydrology of the existing
farmland. In response, Con1/BBV assured him that they
would keep the water flow away from the natural water courses
to ensure that existing farmland would not be affected.
|
KCRC |
| Environmental
monitoring and auditing
99. The Chairman noted that the summary
report of the environmental performance of WR contained mainly
pledges. For the purpose of making reference to the proponent's
performance in meeting the requirements stipulated in the
Environmental Permit, he asked the proponent to provide data
on exceedances of environmental standards. A Member
added that it would be more meaningful to know how often these
exceedances were repeated. EM/KCRC undertook to provide
the data before the main Council meeting.
Members' views
100. The Chairman concluded that whilst
the need for the railway was outside the Council's remit,
Members' major concerns were whether the proponent had exhausted
all possible alignment options to avoid Long Valley, and whether
the proposed mitigation measures were adequate and effective.
He urged the proponent to further examine the alignment option
suggested by a Member, taking into account possible adjustment
of train speed and the location of Kwu Tung Station. He appreciated
the constraint of resuming land for compensation purpose and
said that the Administration should consider the possibility
of providing land for off-site mitigation. Finally, it was
considered unacceptable to make use of the same site for mitigation
measures for different projects.
101. SD(CP)/KCRC and PAS(9)/TB
thanked Members for their comments and undertook to address
their concerns as far as possible.
102. Following the departure of the proponent's
team, Members went on to discuss what statement the main Council
could make should it decide against the project and what conditions
should be attached should it decide to endorse the EIA. Members
agreed with the following statement and conditions-
Grounds for rejecting the EIA report
-
The Central Alignment would bring serious, significant,
and unavoidable habitat fragmentation in Long Valley which
is known to have high ecological value.
- The Central Alignment involves the use
of viaducts. This has adverse landscape impact which is
again impossible to mitigate.
- The project proponent has not explored
and adequately evaluated all possible options with respect
to the construction methods or alignment.
- The
proposed mitigation measures are inadequate and ineffective:
| |
- no
benchmark functional value is defined, both for the
meanders and for the existing Lok Ma Chau fishponds
which are proposed for compensation;
- in
the case of the meanders, the mitigation proposed
to be carried out by Territory Development Department
has not yet been implemented;there is therefore no
way to measure the benchmark value;
- the
equivalent functional value needed for ecological
compensation has not been defined/quantified; and
- no
scientific evidence/insufficient information is available
to substantiate that the enhancement measures proposed
could achieve the functional value required for mitigation.
|
-
Information available overseas shows that the failure rate
of re-created wetland is about 50% to 73%.The Project proponent
has failed to provide any contingency or fallback in the
event of failure.
Conditions for incorporation by DEP in endorsing the EIA
report
-
All
measures set out in the EIA report must be implemented.
- Construction
work in Long Valley cannot commence until the proposed temporary
mitigation area is functional as demonstrated by the presence
of the cross section of species inhabited in the affected
area.
- If the functions of the proposed temporary
mitigation area are not achieved or not retained, the Project
proponent should acquire an equivalent area (1.8 ha as stated
in the EIA report) in Long Valley to serve the proposed
temporary mitigation purpose.
- A detailed management plan of the long-term
implementation of mitigation measures should be submitted
to ACE and DEP.(e) Environmental monitoring and auditing
data should be made available to the public in the shortest
possible time on the website managed by the Project proponent.(f)
Operation of the Spur Line cannot commence until the permanent
mitigation measures are demonstrated to have achieved the
required functional equivalency of wetlands at Long Valley
and Lok Ma Chau.(g) At least another 0.85 ha of permanent
freshwater wetland in Long Valley and another 9.5 ha of
coastal wetland in Lok Ma Chau should be created.
|
KCRC |
|
|
EIA
Subcommittee Secretariat
July 2000 |
|
|